diff --git a/src/main/java/com/avaje/ebeaninternal/server/persist/DefaultPersister.java b/src/main/java/com/avaje/ebeaninternal/server/persist/DefaultPersister.java
index 24b63b52f..ae57c7d08 100644
--- a/src/main/java/com/avaje/ebeaninternal/server/persist/DefaultPersister.java
+++ b/src/main/java/com/avaje/ebeaninternal/server/persist/DefaultPersister.java
@@ -643,6 +643,15 @@ public final class DefaultPersister implements Persister {
     private boolean isCascade() {
       return cascade;
     }
+
+    public void modifyListenReset(BeanCollection<?> c) {
+      if (insertedParent) {
+        // after insert set the modify listening mode
+        // for private owned etc
+        c.setModifyListening(many.getModifyListenMode());
+      }
+      c.modifyReset();
+    }
   }
 
   private void saveMany(SaveManyPropRequest saveMany, boolean insertMode) {
@@ -684,6 +693,7 @@ public final class DefaultPersister implements Persister {
 
       BeanCollection<?> c = (BeanCollection<?>) details;
       Set<?> modifyRemovals = c.getModifyRemovals();
+      saveMany.modifyListenReset(c);
       if (modifyRemovals != null && !modifyRemovals.isEmpty()) {
 
         SpiTransaction t = saveMany.getTransaction();
diff --git a/src/test/java/com/avaje/tests/cascade/TestPrivateOwned.java b/src/test/java/com/avaje/tests/cascade/TestPrivateOwned.java
index eee63b5ff..03a2a0111 100644
--- a/src/test/java/com/avaje/tests/cascade/TestPrivateOwned.java
+++ b/src/test/java/com/avaje/tests/cascade/TestPrivateOwned.java
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ import com.avaje.ebean.Ebean;
 import com.avaje.ebean.bean.BeanCollection;
 import com.avaje.tests.model.basic.TSDetail;
 import com.avaje.tests.model.basic.TSMaster;
+import org.avaje.ebeantest.LoggedSqlCollector;
 import org.junit.Test;
 
 import java.util.List;
@@ -65,11 +66,22 @@ public class TestPrivateOwned extends BaseTestCase {
     Ebean.save(m0);
     assertThat(m0.getDetails()).hasSize(2);
 
+    LoggedSqlCollector.start();
     m0.getDetails().remove(0);
     Ebean.save(m0);
 
+    List<String> loggedSql = LoggedSqlCollector.stop();
+    assertThat(loggedSql).hasSize(1);
+    assertThat(loggedSql.get(0)).contains("delete from t_detail_with_other_namexxxyy where id=?");
+
     TSMaster masterReload = Ebean.find(TSMaster.class, m0.getId());
     assertThat(masterReload.getDetails()).hasSize(1);
+
+    LoggedSqlCollector.start();
+    Ebean.save(m0);
+    loggedSql = LoggedSqlCollector.stop();
+    assertThat(loggedSql).hasSize(0);
+
   }
 
 }